A Casca gazetteer?

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December 31, 2011 at 1:34 pm #866
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Tony Roberts
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Some time back someone suggested to me by email that I ought to do a map of the world where Casca has travelled and fought. I’ve considered this on and off for over a year or more, and would like to know your thoughts on this. Clearly there are a few issues to sort out, one of which for example is the location of Helsfjord. Its a fictitious place, and so where to put it?

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December 31, 2011 at 3:00 pm #867
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Rob.McCool
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Thats a great idea,with a detailed version on the website and also the books,perhaps in a similar style to the maps in the Conan books?.It could be added to as you write more stories.-The spelling of Helsfjord suggests Norway,Sweden or Denmark as the German spelling is different

December 31, 2011 at 8:01 pm #869
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Altosackbuteer
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Helsfjord is somewhere on the North Sea side of the Jutland peninsula. I think that’s plain from the context of the stories.

One difficulty of HelsFJORD is that, in order to justify its name, it needs to be like Norwegian fjords — an inlet of the sea cutting into extremely mountainous terrain. But the Jutland peninsula is all very FLAT.

Rob McCool is correct that it has to be Scandinavian, and not German. However, since the stories all say that Casca found his way to Helsfjord both times by WALKING there, it therefore cannot be Norway or Sweden. It therefore HAS to be Denmark.

And the Baltic Sea doesn’t have much tidal activity, whereas we know that Lida’s father the king set Casca out to be eaten by crabs as the tide rose. So — that suggests the North Sea.

I do not know if there is any native German word for “fjord.” Surely Germans use the word, but in the same way that we (Americans & Englishmen) use the word — to refer to the topography of Norway. I do not even know of any topography in Germany which even is like Norwegian fjords — all the German seacoast has ALWAYS been flat — so the very concept doesn’t even exist in native German.

December 31, 2011 at 10:05 pm #871
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Harri
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But bear in mind, we are talking about grammar that’s a thousand years old. Perhaps back then, regional languages were less diverse, and terms like “fjord” were more widely used.

January 4, 2012 at 6:54 pm #903
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Tony Roberts
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I tend to agree that Helsfjord should be in Denmark, and the comment about the tides is a valid one I didn’t think about. So the western side of Jutland would be the area. Another factor to think about is the Battle of the Field of Runes; it wasn’t too far from Helsfjord and there Casca and his soldiers fought the Saxons. The Saxons had territory immediately to the south of Denmark but were nowhere near Sweden or Norway.

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